Ken welcomes Dr. Brian Rush McDonald, former pastor, missionary, musician, author, and now a psychotherapist. Dr. McDonald found Ken's podcast, and the two connected. After Ken read Brian's book, A LONG SURRENDER - A Memoir About Losing My Religion, the two connected. From Alexandria, VA, Brian tells his story of awakenings - from high school "Jesus Freak" to Bob Jones University, on to Taiwan as a GARB missionary, back to Jerry Falwell's Liberty University for graduate work, and after six years pastoring a church (preaching in Mandarin and English), a Ph.D. at The College of William and Mary. It's a journey of evolving faith. They talk about M. Scott Peck's stages of faith development. For Dr. McDonald, it's a journey from religion to freedom. SHOW NOTES
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