Notes S3E11 The Two Kens - Curiosity, Whiteness and Black History Month

Kemp and Fong come together for a different TWO KENS conversation. They both like to listen to the other's podcasts. Kemp comments on Fong's interview with non-profit fund-raiser Vu Le. Fong heard Ken's exchange with Osahon Obazuaye and asked if the two might spend the majority of this podcast exploring how Kemp transitioned from the conservative friend Fong new three decades ago to the Beached White Male, today interacting with a young African American on a deep level about race in America. Fong probes into Kemp's journey, from education in conservative academic institutions, to a major secular university (UCLA), to a career in business. While he had formative experiences in race, he became a conservative in both religion and politics. He confesses his early preoccupation with Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. Promise Keepers introduced the Year of Racial Reconciliation and it killed the movement. Fong shared the stage with Franklin Graham.  That changed with the election of Barack Obama, for whom he voted in 2008. In a series of awakenings, The Beached White Male podcast took off, including a commitment to the Center for Racial Reconciliation and a deep friendship with Osahon - and Ken Fong. They end with a reflection on the cost of the journey, and more, the benefit.

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